Grateful Dead Live at San Francisco Civic Center on 1987-01-28
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It Must Have Been The Roses
It's All Over Now
My Brother Esau
When Push Comes To Shove ->
Samson And Delilah
Black Muddy River
He's Gone ->
Eyes Of The World ->
Black Peter ->
Around And Around ->
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|It Must Have Been The Roses|
|It's All Over Now|
|My Brother Esau|
|When Push Comes To Shove ->|
|Samson And Delilah|
|Black Muddy River ->|
|He's Gone ->|
|Eyes Of The World ->|
|Black Peter ->|
|Around And Around ->|
-- 2nd Set and Encore can be re-joined seamlessly
-- Thanks to Paul Scotton and Joani Walker for the tapes
-- 90 seconds of dead air removed from 1st Set
- 2008-04-13 20:43:03
- Cassette Master (Tascam 122mkII) -> Apogee MiniMe (24bit/48k) -> Samplitude Professional v8.01 -> FLAC/16
- San Francisco, CA
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- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
Subject: As I Remembered It
Subject: There was no parking lot scene...
Subject: Hard to get a grip on rating this one
At the end of the day, having been to a least one show every year [other than 1975] since 1974, and having heard some God awful nights - - especially down the final stretch from summer '94 through summer '95, I'm going with it was just one of those sloppy nights where the gears were a tad out of sync. Wasn't there, but the audience tapes I've listened to suggest an electric atmosphere at the venue. So I'm thinking folks had a good time no matter the sloppiness. And I always got a kick out of Bobby nailing the lyrics to Desolation Row, then stumbling through a tune like Jack Straw..... So if I were to rate it..... probably 4 stars for set lists [a few interesting song placements].... 4 stars for energy.... and 2 stars for playing/lyric screw ups [for the era..... playing was great compared to the home stretch].
So hate it or love it.... be happy it happened and that we were a part of what made it great.
See you at Dead & Company.....
Subject: bread crumb
Subject: I can hear it beat out loud...
The boys were still on the comeback trail after Jerry almost kicked at end of Summer of 1986 tour.
Personally I felt like it was not until like mid 1988 somewhere that they got their mojo back.
They got mixed up with the Dylan-Dead thing which was good for Dylan but not so much for the Grateful Dead.
To me that basically detoured the summer of 87 while the band gave I.V. drips to the corpse of Encino Man - Mr. Dylan. (and then Bobby wanted to sing like Bob Dylan???)
Vocals are off on Shakedown.
But i like Brent's singing in there.
GET BACK- I wanted any BEATLES cover they were willing to attempt. Did they just wing it. YEAH,
Peggy O-always nice, Jerry not super firm on it but the tune is so sweet.
WALKIN BLUES-Not a big crowd favorite but really has the same vibe as MINGLEWOOD... A good vehicle for Bob and his take on the blues.
THE ROSES- Jerry is picking some great tunes.
ALL OVER NOW-Someone calls for a rocker and this is Bob's choice.
ROW JIMMY-Vocals pretty weak in spots,
Jerry picks it up towards end with bounce.
ESAU- Always liked this tune lots of imagery when dancin and just about everybody had a different take on the tunes meaning. It would vanish from the set list and I don't think it ever returned?
Drummers get busy with this tune.
BIRD SONG-Good choice
They sound somewhat stagnant,Tempo?
You would think this would be easy for the band but the time off is very detectable right here.
Cool little Bird calls mixed in.
Perhaps Garcia with Midi effects?
They actually finish up the Bird Song strong
JACK STRAW-Now that is a surprise! Not to many a set one closing with Jack Straw!!!The crowd seems rather in shock? I was looking for some kind of roar?? They have a better groove here,
This is a fast paced Jack Straw-full speed ahead!
"We can share the women, we can share the wine"
You catch Bobby closing it out while Jerry is still on his final riff, stuff like that just takes tour time to get together.
Set 2 When Push Comes To Shove -> Samson And Delilah Black Muddy River He's Gone -> Spoonful -> Drums -> Space -> Eyes Of The World -> Black Peter -> Around And Around -> Sugar Magnolia Encore U.S. Blues
Well to open 2nd set with PUSH -kinda goofy, SAMSON to BLACK MUDDY that is a good contrast.
Did JERRY sing 'Can't tell my pillow from a bone'.
You can tell they did not spend much time in rehearsal before this show? Which is strange because they nailed this tune late 86.
In a way this song could have been played instrumental and would have been just fine.
Garcia ends up relegating it to the encore slot.
The thing I love about Garcia is he doubles down after that difficult BMR with HE'S GONE.
Hear BRENT trying to lift Jerry with some good backing vocals.
He's Gone>Spoonful-they could tack Spoonful to just about anything
>EYES-out of SPACE may not be perfect here but it is a good change of pace from the standard tunes they usually use coming out of space.
Jerry has a seeds and stems moment to start with vocally but they do O.K. with this especially for coming at it from about a minutes worth of jam off the drums.
The rest of the set list and encore are pretty standard. Oh, well i know I was just thankful to have shows to go to because if the Dead scene had gone under in 1986 there would have been a huge void in my life.
I will give it a 4 for effort.
There were still better days ahead for
THE GRATEFUL DEAD...
Subject: i wanted to like this...
But the playing is sub-par. The Shakedown is full of Jerry slurring the words as is the Black Muddy River. Some shows want to have fun but just don't get there. This is one of those.
Sound quality is great, though.
When the last something something hits the something...
Subject: For All The Good Comes Some Bad
Subject: I guess the show had to go on, but Geez.
Subject: Ummmm, terrible show
As for the version of "Get Back", c'mon people, thery're playing "Get Back" for God's sake! I was there with a close friend who's now gone, and we were just blown away! To be honest, I didn't even remember the chipmunk sounds at all till I listened to the tape.
Don't be so critical, be happy there were shows at all after 1985.
Subject: Stars for sound quality.
Subject: pound sand
Subject: My rating won't alter the average.
Subject: The Chipmunks sing the Beatles!
Subject: a GooD show
ain't it supposed to be a bit strange?
i enjoyed listening to those words that Jerry could remember, and i haven't heard much to compare on any level with what was achieved live...this was the height of polish i say, and i dug the jam outta drums, no space, where did it go?
Subject: A trainwreck? Well maybe a fender bender
If you really want to hear something truly awful check out the Boreal Ridge Ski Resort show on 08/24/85 or my vote for worst all-time show: Campolindo High School on 05/16/69.
Subject: USE STARS FOR RECORDING QUALITY
Subject: Trainwreck plain and simple
Subject: Yep, it's that bad
Subject: Why all the negativity?
First of all, more Jerry than Bob songs
6 Jerry songs, 4 Bob Songs
Next, a post-drums Eyes, quite a rarity. Even if it is short. AND five songs before the drumz segment. I think this is an overlooked show, atleast setlist wise.
Keep complaining, your on the archive for a reason. No one cares.
Subject: Get Back
Subject: GD Downtown SF hardcore
Subject: Agreeing & disagreeing forgettable, but I was there!
Now I have been known for two things, one back during the shows themselves, to be a very harsh critic yet I distinctly remember one time after a Greek show telling someone who was hard on me for being so, of how I could so greatly acknowledge how absolutely amazing that particular show was, so in this sense it is great to see that some others can see that sometimes the band can suck! On the other hand, I agree with that guy (in principle) who was saying something about how Grateful Dead weren't perfect when we say them! (The way I describe this same concept is as follows) unlike a band like for example again Pink Floyd, E.L.P., or Genesis that is, when one would see them live (all of which I did several times each) that even though they did do some improvisation they were so structured that if they made a mistake one would be hard pressed to notice it, and yet even though Grateful Dead often made mistakes they took the risk such that when it was magic it really was magic, if nowhere else nightly in the Percussion and Improvisation (which as I've said elsewhere I refuse to call "Space" since there is no air in space) sections!
Secondly, I've also been known to inject from time to time my personal experiences, but unlike some folks here I try to use them in a limited sort of way that has some direct bearing on something about the show in question like historical context or as I do here in relation to other shows I've seen; so in this light as I said above if something slightly unusual happened I usually remember it, be it a song or a guest or something else, so again it is surprising to me that I can hardly remember Olatunji being there? I do remember that I'd seen him more than once with Grateful Dead and this must have been it since I remember for obvious reasons most distinctly, when I saw him open at the New Year's 91-92 show since I had a backstage pass and since he was blind when I was walking along with him and his guide when he was talking to me he held my hand! Nevertheless, I pretty well remember most if not all the times I saw other such guests such as Airto (and sometimes) Flora Purim, Branford Marsalis etc., since not to brag, but I saw nearly every appearance that each of these artists guested with Grateful Dead!
Furthermore, I not only firmly agree (even though I wasn't there) that 73-11-11 was one of the all time absolute greatest shows ever, but for those with all due respect, gel brains that think some of these performances were so terrific like with "Fernario" (I mean I had to listen to this Fernario over and over again and it still did nothing for me) for example I would kindly and strongly urge them to check out for example 77-6-4 (even though the guy said "in this decade"). Moreover, similarly for "Row Jimmy" 79-12-28 (and for the entire show of 79-12-28 as well) or in the case of "Shakedown Street" how about 79-11-25 or numerous others like perhaps 81-9-12 (and again this entire show)!
I hate to be a know it all but trust me I do know what I'm talking about even when it comes to shows like this one for which I can hardly remember! So if it wasn't for my enjoying "Get Back" that I can't give this a 1, thus a 2!
Subject: Thank you Charlie!
Now it says Thank you Charlie!
I think you deserve the credit for these delicious remasters
Subject: "Dan Helium" strikes again!